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Origin of Goth

 IThe origin of Goth?


Just Vampyre. Period.


Right from the beginning…

But if one is still doubtful, then quite a few videos from the time have been digitized.

Over the decades, I have seen people significantly reduce the role of vampyre aesthetics and culture as the foundation of goth. Instead the vampyre origins have been isolated to a subset within goth. Nothing could be further from the truth–nor could the fact that Goth was just music based. Of course vampyre culture is varied and spans all time so there were many influences, but it was primarily young vampyre wanting to express themselves and no longer hide behind the masquerade of looking or acting human.

I transitioned from prep/Val to New Wave to Punk and then to Goth.  Unlike humans, my fashion did not really matter since I was always a vampyre.

As for my story, I would travel (leap, hop, jump, etc.) to the BatCave. We often waited to go until the live show was over so we could dance after. As I recall, that was about 10 on some nights and midnight on others. If not the BatCave, we would go to a night called Communion or end up in some warehouse area. A man on Facebook called me a liar and impersonator because I couldn’t name my favorite television show or food from back then. I wasn’t living in England or Scotland–I was visiting. I am also not human and was not living a human existence there. We had a church ran by a goth who was an actual minister. He would later appear in a Goth magazine. I cannot disclose whether he was a vampyre or not, but goths were the primary attendees of the church, aside from some locals of the village.




I do not care what any music journalist or other human says about the origins.

Goth/Gothic was an outcropping from young vampyre wanting to be themselves in society. We were tired of wearing the facade of human life and interests. In fact, none of us ever intended for humans to even know about it. The whole look and what it was about spread through the bands and people in the punk and New Wave scenes.

These young vampyre came from punk, new wave, glam, etc. They embraced elements of what they called “old world” (like lace) but that became even more so when humans discovered goth/gothic. The vampyre emphasized the refinement, blood, and dark lifestyle.

For humans, it allowed them to fully face the whole topic of the macabre and death so that they could feel alive. So many “normal” people lived in a race with death and forgot to live. The Goths and Gothic kids didn’t want to live that race or that way.

However, there were new “visitors” in 1991 and most vampyre left the scene by 1992, when humans and clones/hybrids began to dominate it rather than the borne.

Shawni was an interesting one. Perhaps her memory will be as foggy as the others. It benefits them to deny my being there or having known me. I am not bothered. Our interactions were extremely few and brief. Fortunately, there is no proof of her ever having known actual vampyre aside from these words. So many were masquerading. I had thought she and William hated one another, but then not much was as it seemed back then. I really should have kept to my “no associating with humans” policy.

In the end, like Scott said, we were “Goth Gods.” It was fun. But those who were vampyre or associated with vampyre were starting to pull away from the label fairly early as humans changed it. We stopped referring to ourselves as Goth or Gothic.

Whatever goth became, it was not what I loved anymore. The vampyre element was turned into pure commercialism and campy, theatrical spectacle. I am glad the humans made it something so completely them.


The girls who were going to be models or marry someone like Gary Numan or a boyfriend from Spandau Ballet or Human League. And…1:24